What 131 owners told NHTSA about the 2014 GMC Sierra 2500 Hd

I AM WRITING REGARDING AN ISSUE WITH MY 2014 GMC SIERRA. I PURCHASED THE TRUCK IN 2014 AND HAVE NOTICED AN ISSUE WITH THE HEADLIGHTS WHILE DRIVING AT NIGHT AND IN THE RAIN. THE HEADLIGHTS DO NOT PROVIDE ENOUGH ILLUMINATION WHEN DRIVING AT NIGHT. IS THERE A SERVICE ISSUE OR RECALL IN PLACE TO FIX THIS ISSUE? I HAVE REQUESTED THAT THE HEADLIGHTS IN MY 2014 SIERRA BE REPLACED WITH THE 2016 HEADLIGHTS. THIS IS A SEVERE SAFETY ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED IMMEDIATELY. THE DEALER IS WILLING TO CHANGE THE BULBS IN THE LAMP BUT NOT REPLACE THE LAMPS SAME AS THE 2016 MODEL UNLESS THERE IS A SERVICE BULLETIN OR RECALL. I AM STILL WORKING WITH THE DEALER AS WELL AS GMC CORPORATE TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE. I AM BEEN FLASHED BY OTHER DRIVERS TO INDICATE I DON'T HAVE HEADLIGHTS ON BUT THEY WERE ON AS WELL AS BEING PULLED OVER BY THE HIGHWAY PATROL WHO THOUGH MY HEADLIGHTS WERE NOT ON. I HAVE NOTICED OTHER COMPLAINTS ON GMC MESSAGE BOARDS AS WELL AS OTHER PLACES ONLINE. PLEASE LOOK INTO THIS ISSUE TO SEE IF IT CAN BE ADDRESSED. THE ONLY WAY GMC WILL ADDRESS IT IS BY RECALL OR LAWSUIT.

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THE VEHICLE LIGHTS ARE VERY DIM EVEN WITH THE HIGH BEAMS ON. WHILE DRIVING AT NIGHT CAN BARELY SEE IN FRONT OF ME. THESE ARE A HAZARD TO ME AND OTHERS, SINCE NOT BEING ABLE TO SEE A GOOD DISTANCE IN FRONT OF THE VEHICLE MAKES HARD TO SEE PEDESTRIANS, ANIMALS OR DEBRIS IN THE ROAD AT NIGHT.

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CAN NOT SEE THE ROAD WITH THE LIGHT OUTPUT WITH THESE FACTORY HEADLIGHT

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THE HEADLIGHTS ARE TOO DIM AND ARE UNSAFE. IN MY 50+ YEARS OF DRIVING, I HAVE NEVER EXPERIENCED HEADLIGHTS SO BAD. I LIVE IN A DARK RURAL AREA WITHOUT ANY STREETLIGHTS AND LOTS OF BICYCLISTS AND DEER. I HAVE ALREADY HAD MANY NEAR MISSES ON RURAL ROADS, AND FEAR IT'S ONLY A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE AN ACCIDENT HAPPENS.

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THE HEADLIGHT OUTPUT AT NIGHT, PARTICULARLY IN RURAL BACK ROAD AREAS IS LESS THAN ADEQUATE. POOR REALLY. I ORIGINALLY HAD MOISTURE ISSUES IN BOTH HEADLAMP HOUSINGS, HAD BOTH HEADLAMP HOUSINGS REPLACED AND THE LIGHTING SEEMED TO BE BETTER, HOWEVER NOT VERY MUCH. THE HEADLIGHTS SEEM TO HAVE DARK SPOTS IN THEM AND ONLY LIGHT UP CERTAIN PARTS OF THE ROAD IN FRONT OF ME, AND NEVER MUCH TO THE SIDE OF THE ROADWAY. I FEEL THIS IS BY FAR THE WORST LIGHTING OUTPUT OF ANY VEHICLE I HAVE EVER OWNED, AND ACTUALLY FEEL A LITTLE UNSAFE DRIVING AT NIGHT. I MOST DEFINITELY CANNOT TRAVEL AT HIGHER SPEEDS DURING THE NIGHT AS I FEEL LIKE I CANNOT SEE NEARLY GOOD ENOUGH. I HAVE SIMPLY "DEALT" WITH THE ISSUE SINCE BUYING THE TRUCK IN DECEMBER 2013, THINKING THERE WAS NO FIX TO IT AND THE DEALERSHIP SAID THEY HAVE NOT HEARD OF THIS ISSUE BEFORE.

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THERE IS ALREADY A TECHNICAL SERVICE BULLETIN ON THIS MATTER HOWEVER I FEEL IT IS SERIOUS ENOUGH TO BE A RECALL. WHILE DRIVING AT NIGHT IN UNLIGHTED AREAS THE BRIGHT LIGHTS LEAVE SERIOUS DARK AREAS ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE TRAVELLING ON CURVY ROADS. IF YOU ENCOUNTER A PEDESTRIAN OR OTHER OBJECT IN THE ROAD IN THESE AREAS THEY CANNOT BE SEEN UNTIL ITS POSSIBLY TOO LATE. THE MANUFACTURER WILL ONLY DO THE REPAIR IF YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT IT AND ITS STILL UNDER WARRANTY. I BELIEVE THIS SHOULD BE RECALLED AND REPAIRED BEFORE SOMEONE IS HURT OR KILLED.

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HEADLIGHTS ARE NOT ADEQUATE FOR SUBURBAN OR RURAL AREAS. INADEQUATE SIDE-TO-SIDE ILLUMINATION IN HI OR LOW. DEALER IS UNABLE TO FIX.

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THE PROJECTOR HEADLIGHTS ON THIS VEHICLE ARE TERRIBLE. THEY ARE DIM AND HAVE A VERY POOR LIGHT PATTERN. (THE BULB PRESUMABLY MEETS FEDERAL STANDARDS, BUT THE PROJECTOR SYSTEM WAS DESIGNED FOR A BRIGHTER BULB). IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO SEE THE SIDES OF THE ROAD, OR VERY FAR DOWN THE ROAD, ON ROADS WHERE THERE ARE NO STREETLIGHTS. IT IS EVEN WORSE ON A RAINY, DARK ROAD. GM INSTITUTED A TSB (#PIT5374, ATTACHED) IN FEBRUARY 2015 WHICH INVOLVES REPROGRAMMING THE BODY CONTROL MODULE (BCM) TO INCREASE THE VOLTAGE TO THE HEADLIGHT BULBS AND SUBSTITUTING VOSLA HIR 55 WATT BULBS FOR THE ORIGINAL STOCK 55 WATT BULBS. THE RESULTS ARE A MINIMAL IMPROVEMENT. THE NEW 2016 MODELS HAVE THE SAME HEADLIGHT DESIGN BUT HAVE BEEN UPGRADED TO A HID BULB THAT CANNOT JUST BE PLUGGED INTO THE 2014/15 HEADLIGHTS. THE IMPROVED BULB AND WIRING IS EVIDENCE THE TSB DID NOT REALLY IMPROVE THE LIGHTING VERY MUCH. (THE INTERNET IS FULL OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE HEADLIGHTS ON THIS VEHICLE; RECOMMEND YOU GOOGLE "GMC SIERRA HEADLIGHTS" AND SEE WHAT YOU GET!). I LIVE IN NORTHERN VIRGINIA AND WOULD BE GLAD TO COME DOWN TO THE NHTSA BUILDING ON A DARK, RAINY NIGHT AND GIVE YOU A RIDE -- THE PROBLEM ISN'T SO BAD IN AREAS WHERE THERE ARE STREETLIGHTS, BUT IT IS TERRIBLE OUT IN THE COUNTRY. BOTTOM LINE, GM SHOULD BE DIRECTED TO ISSUE A RECALL THAT INVOLVES REPLACING THE WIRING HARNESS AND BULB WITH THEIR LATEST DESIGN. THE HEADLIGHTS IN THE 2014/2014 SIERRA ARE HAZARDOUS TO THE PEOPLE IN THE TRUCK AND TO PEDESTRIANS ALONG THE ROAD. THANKS FOR LISTENING TO MY COMPLAINT, AND PLEASE TAKE ACTION FOR SAFETY'S SAKE. (NOTE: THERE IS NO SPECIFIC TIME, MILEAGE, MPH, ETC., THAT THIS WAS NOTED. IT IS CONTINUAL. I HAD THE TSB PERFORMED IN THE SUMMER OF 2015 AND NOTED MINIMAL IMPROVEMENT AT THAT TIME.)

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I BOUGHT MY 2014 GMC SIERRA BRAND NEW IN DEC 2014 AND HAD IT BACK TO THE DEALER WITHIN 3 WEEKS BECAUSE I WAS SURE THERE WAS A DEFECT WITH THE HEADLIGHTS ! YOU CAN ONLY SEE MAYBE 30 FEET IN FRONT OF YOU AND NOTHING IF YOU MAKE ANY TURN ON A DARK ROAD WITH NO STREETLIGHTS ! THE MECHANIC AT THE DEALERSHIP SAID THERE WAS NO PROBLEM WITH THE LIGHTS AND THEY MEET ALL GENERAL MOTORS SPECIFICATIONS ...I HAVE READ MANY MANY COMPLAINTS FROM OTHER 2014 GMC SIERRA OWNERS WITH THIS SAME COMPLAINT SO I KNOW ITS NOT MY IMAGINATION OR A PROBLEM WITH MY EYESIGHT !! I SURE HOPE THAT GMC DOESN'T WAIT FOR FATALITIES OR A CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT BEFORE ADDRESSING AND CORRECTING THIS PROBLEM , I HAVE BEEN A LOYAL GMC CONSUMER FOR 45 YEARS BUT THIS OBVIOUS PROBLEM WITH THE LIGHTING AND GMC'S REFUSAL TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THERE IS A DESIGN DEFECT I CAN SAY THIS IS THE LAST GMC VEHICLE I WILL EVER PURCHASE . DO THE RIGHT THING GENERAL MOTORS ! FIX THE PROBLEM AND SAVE SOME LIVES !

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TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2014 GMC SIERRA THE CONTACT STATED THAT WHILE DRIVING AT VARIOUS SPEEDS AT NIGHT, THE LOW BEAMS AND HIGH BEAMS WERE EXTREMELY DIM WHEN THEY WERE ACTIVATED. THE FAILURE RECURRED CONTINUOUSLY. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE VEHICLE COULD NOT BE DRIVEN AT NIGHT. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT DIAGNOSED OR REPAIRED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS MADE AWARE OF THE FAILURE. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS UNKNOWN.

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THE FRONT PROJECTOR HEADLAMPS DO NOT PUT OUT ENOUGH LIGHT TO SAFELY DRIVE ON UNLIT ROADS AT HIGHWAY SPEEDS. THERE IS ALSO LITTLE LIGHT PROJECTED TO THE SIDE MAKING TURNS UNLIT. I RECENTLY HAD A NEAR HIT WITH A PEDESTRIAN ON AN UNLIT STREET BECAUSE OF NO SIDE LIGHTING WHEN MAKING A SLOW TURN. THERE ARE NO HIGHER LUMEN REPLACEMENT BULBS AVAILABLE.

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2014 GMC SIERRA. CONSUMER WRITES IN REGARDS TO VEHICLE HEADLIGHT PROBLEMS. *SMD THE CONSUMER STATED WHEN HE MADE TURNS, THERE WAS NOT SUFFICIENT LIGHTING. THE DEALER STATED THE HEAD LIGHTS WERE FOUR INCHES TOO HIGH, SO THEY ADJUSTED THEM. UPON DRIVING AT NIGHT, HE FOUND THE LIGHTING TO THE SIDE HAD SLIGHTLY IMPROVED, BUT THE LIGHT WAS SHARPLY CUT OFF ABOUT 45 FEET IN FRONT OF THE TRUCK ON WHEN THE LOW BEAMS WERE ON, WHICH MADE IT UNSAFE TO DRIVE OVER 35 MPH. THE HIGH BEAMS GAVE GOOD LIGHTING AT DISTANCES, BUT BROUGHT FLASHED FROM ONCOMING TRAFFIC. THE SECOND HEAD LIGHT ADJUSTMENT EXTENDED THE LIGHTING OUT ABOUT 20 INCHES FURTHER, BUT LESS LIGHTING TO THE SIDES FOR TURNING. THE HEAD LIGHTS WERE ADJUSTED AGAIN AND THE TECHNICIAN STATED THE LIGHTS WERE AT THE LEVEL FROM THE FACTORY. THE CONSUMER STATED THE HEAD LIGHTS WERE NOT ADEQUATE IN HIS OPINION. *JB

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THE VEHICLES HEADLIGHTS ARE DANGEROUSLY INEFFECTIVE. THEY RARELY ILLUMINATE THE DISTANCE BETWEEN 2 TELEPHONE POLES. THE INEFFECTIVENESS OF THE HEADLIGHTS IS AMPLIFIED ON HILLS OR ON ANY TURN. THE DURING THE TRANSITION FROM DECLINE TO INCLINE, YOU SOMETIMES HAVE BARELY A TRUCKS LENGTH OF ILLUMINATION. ANY CORNER ON A DARK ROAD REQUIRES A SEVERE DECREASE IN TRAVEL SPEED TO AVOID OVER DRIVING THE LIGHTS. I HAVE NEVER DRIVEN A VEHICLE THAT MADE ME FEEL MORE APPREHENSIVE TO GET BEHIND THE WHEEL AFTER DARK. I VISITED THE DEALER WHO EXECUTED A TSB THAT INCREASED HEADLIGHT VOLTAGE AND REPLACED THE BULBS. IT MADE A NEGLIGIBLE IMPROVEMENT AND LEFT THE VEHICLE STILL UNSAFE AT NIGHT. I FREQUENTLY TRAVEL ON RURAL ROADS WITH NO STREET LIGHTS. I HAVE ALMOST HIT WILDLIFE TOO MANY TIMES TO COUNT DUE TO THE POOR VISIBILITY CAUSED BY THESE DANGEROUS HEADLIGHTS. TRAVEL OVER 30 MPH ON DARK COUNTRY ROADS WITH A LEGAL SPEED LIMIT OF 50 IS ILL ADVISED DUE TO THE INEFFECTIVENESS OF THE HEADLIGHTS.

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HEADLIGHTS ARE NOT ADEQUATE FOR NIGHT DRIVING: HAVE DRIVEN THIS TRUCK FOR THE PAST YEAR AT NIGHT AND IN DIFFERENT TYPES OF WEATHER AND HAVE HAD TO REALLY STRAIN MY EYES TO KEEP IT ON THE ROAD DUE TO POOR VISIBILITY DUE TO THE HEAD LIGHTS, AFTER MISSING A TURN LAST NIGHT OFF THE HIGHWAY DECIDED TO SEE IF THE DEALERSHIP WOULD TAKE A LOOK AT THEM AND SEE WHAT THEY COULD DO ,IF THEY SAY THERE IS NOTHING THAT THEY CAN DO ,ILL HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO INSTALL DIFFERENT HEADLIGHTS .

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TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2014 GMC SIERRA. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE HEADLIGHTS WERE DIM AND PROVIDED POOR VISIBILITY. THE FAILURE WAS WORSE IN RAINY CONDITIONS. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO A LOCAL DEALER WHO STATED THAT THE LIGHTS LACKED VOLUME; HOWEVER, THEY DID NOT OFFER ANY REMEDY. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT MADE AWARE OF THE FAILURE. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 23,000. UPDATED 02/12/16*LJ THE CONSUMER STATED THE TAIL GATE ALLOWED DIRT TO ENTER INSIDE THE TRUCK. UPDATED 03/03/16

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TODAY FOR THE FIRST TIME I DROVE MY 2014 SIERRA TEXAS EDITION IN THE RAIN AT NIGHT.... WOW>>>>> I HAD TO STOP AND WAIT FOR THE RAIN DOWNPOUR TO LET OUT SO I COULD SEE WHERE I WAS GOING. NOT GOOD. DRIVING AT NIGHT IS VERY STRESSFULL AND EYE STRAINING TO THE POINT OF TAKING HEADACHE MEDICATIONS ONCE YOU ARE DONE DRIVING. ANY WAYT TO FIX THIS EXTREMELY DANGEROUS PROBLEM? THIS SHOULD BE CONSIDERED A SAFETY HAZARD TO DRIVERS AND ANY OTHERS ON THE ROAD. THIS ISSUE NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED AND RESOLVED ASAP. AND GM STILL SAYS THERE IS NOTHING WRONG. SO WHY ARE THEY CHANGING THE DESING ON THE 2016'S TRUCKS

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THE HEADLIGHTS IN THE VEHICLE ARE VERY DIM. THEY HAVE A PROJECTOR LIGHT IN THEM AND ONLY HAVE ONE BULB, THEY PROJECTOR MOVES WHEN SWITCHING BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN BRIGHT AND DIMS. THE PROBLEM IS THERE'S ONE LITTLE YELLOW CIRCLE OUT IN FRONT OF THE TRUCK ABOUT 30 FEET, THE BRIGHTS DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, AND THERE IS NO LIGHTING TO THE SIDES OF THE TRUCK. THERE IS NO LIGHT ON THE CURB AND MAKING A TURN IS NOT ONLY DIFFICULT BUT ALSO UNSAFE. THE VEHICLE HAS BEEN IN 3 TIMES TO FIX THIS ISSUE AND THEY HAVE DONE NOTHING TO HELP. I READ ONLINE THAT THERE IS AN UPDATE THAT SENDS MORE VOLTAGE TO THE HEADLIGHTS BUT THEY ALSO KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THAT. THE LAST TIME THEY SAID THEY WOULDN'T EVEN ALIGN THE LIGHTS BECAUSE I HAD PUT AFTERMARKET BULBS IN JUST TO BE ABLE TO SEE. THE FOG LIGHTS ARE TWICE AS BRIGHT AS THE HEADLIGHT, I'VE TOLD THEM THAT, CALLED THEIR CUSTOMER SERVICE NUMBER, TOLD THEM THAT, AND THEY DON'T SEEM TO CARE. I SEE ONLINE THAT IT IS A COMMON COMPLAINT AND SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE ABOUT IT. ALSO THE ONES LIKE MINE WITH THE VIBRATING SAFETY SEAT GET LOOSE, ALSO A COMMON COMPLAINT, AND THEY WON'T COVER IT UNDER WARRANTY OR RECALL.

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THE HIGHLIGHTS ON THE 2014 SIERRA SLE ARE A HAZARD TO TRY TO DRIVE WITH AT NIGHT ONLY LIGHT UP 30-40 FEET IN FRONT OF THE VEHICLE I GET MORE LIGHT FROM THE FOG LAMPS TO SEE BY

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THE ORIGINAL HEADLIGHTS ARE TOO DIM WHEN IN THE LOW BEAM STATE. HIGH BEAMS ARE SLIGHTLY BETTER. A BRIGHTER COLOR WOULD BE A GREAT IMPROVEMENT.

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I PURCHASED A 2014 GMC SIERRA IN NOVEMBER OF 2014 AND THE HEADLIGHTS ON OUR TRUCK GIVE YOU VERY LIMITED VISIBILITY, IT IS UNSAFE TO DRIVE AT NIGHT WITH HIGH BEAMS OR LOW BEAMS, I USE MY FOG LIGHTS TO HELP ME SEE BETTER BUT THEY DO NOT HELP MUCH ON DISTANCE. I TRADED IN A 2013 SILVERADO THAT HAD AWESOME HEADLIGHTS FOR THIS TRUCK AND RAISED MY PAYMENT 300$ ONLY TO HAVE A TRUCK THAT I CANT DRIVE AT NIGHT. SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE ABOUT THIS. I HAVE READ MANY COMPLAINTS ON THIS ISSUE AND FEEL THAT GM NEEDS TO CORRECT IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE BEFORE A SERIOUS ACCIDENT HAPPENS.

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I PURCHASE THIS VEHICLE NOV. 2013, AND EVER SINCE I NOTICE THAT THE HEADLIGHT ON THIS VEHICLE DO NOT LIGHT THE ROAD PROPERLY, WHETHER YOU HAVE THEM IN LOW OR HIGH BEAM. THE DISTANCE OF THE LOW AND HIGH BEAM APPEAR TO BE THE SAME (AT TIMES IT SEEMS THE HIGHS) ARE AIMING SKYWARD. NOT TO LONG AGO I ALMOST RAN OVER A WOMAN AND A CHILD WHO WERE CROSSING A STREET OVER TO MY LEFT WHEN I WAS ATTEMPTING TO MAKE A LEFT TURN (THIS WAS A DARK AREA). LUCKILY I WAS GOING SLOW WHEN I WAS MAKING THE TURN AND WAS ABLE TO SEE THEM WHEN THE HEADLIGHTS HIT THEM AND CAME INTO VIEW. BY THIS STATEMENT I AM TRYING TO POINT OUT THAT THERE NO LIGHTING TO EITHER SIDE OF THE VEHICLE, I AM SURE (POSITIVE) THAT IF I WOULD HAVE BEEN MAKING A RIGHT TURN AN ACCIDENT WOULD HAVE HAPPEN. ARE THERE ANY RECALLS REGARDING THIS PROBLEM? IF NOT, I THINK THERE SHOULD ONE. BECAUSE IF SOMETHING LIKE THIS EXAMPLE I AM SUBMITTING TO YOU EVER HAPPENS, THE DRIVER WILL HELD RESPONSIBLE. AN IN MY CASE IT WILL BE BLAMED DUE TO MY AGE. *TR

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HEADLAMPS DO NOT ADEQUATELY LIGHT UP ROAD. VERY UNSAFE. DEALER WON'T HELP. *TR

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THE HEADLIGHTS ON THIS TRUCK PROVIDE INADEQUATE LIGHTING, INCLUDING BOTH LOW BEAMS AND HIGH BEAMS. ANY NIGHT DRIVING IS DIFFICULT DUE TO LIMITED VISIBILITY, THERE SIMPLY IS NOT ENOUGH ILLUMINATION TO SEE. CAN BE VERY DANGEROUS - ESPECIALLY AT SPEEDS ABOVE 35 MPH OR DURING PRECIPITATION. THE HEADLIGHT HAS A SEVERE DESIGN FLAW WITH GMS APPROACH AT A SHUTTER SYSTEM. THIS TYPE OF DESIGN DOES NOT LEAVE ANY OPTIONS FOR SIMPLY CHANGING THE TYPE OF BULB - THE DESIGN IS ACTUALLY AT FAULT FOR THE POOR VISIBILITY. THE VISIBILITY PROBLEMS SIMPLY CANNOT BE FIXED WITH A DIFFERENT BULB TYPE DUE TO THE SHUTTER DESIGN TYPE. MANY COMPLAINTS ARE BEING REGISTERED ONLINE RELATED TO THE VISIBILITY PROBLEM. THESE TRUCKS ARE NOT SAFE TO DRIVE AT NIGHT. IF THERE IS A STANDARD FOR MINIMUM HEADLIGHT ILLUMINATION FOR NIGHT TIME DRIVING, THIS MODEL HEADLIGHT NEEDS TO BE REVIEWED IF IT IS MEETING THE MINIMUM STANDARD. NOT SAFE, A DEFINITE PROBLEM THAT NEEDS ATTENTION. *TR

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PURCHASED THIS VEHICLE JULY 2013. THE HEADLIGHTS ARE EXTREMELY INADEQUATE AND A HAZARD TO DRIVING. THE INADEQUATE LIGHTING HAS CAUSED ME TO RUN OFF THE ROAD ON MORE THAN ONE OCCASION DUE TO THE EXTREME CURVATURE OF THE ROAD AND THE LACK OF ADEQUATE LIGHTING TO SEE THE CURVE AHEAD. THE HEADLIGHTS ALSO DO NOT AFFORD YOU TIME TO SEE ROAD HAZARDS IN THE ROADWAY. GM NEEDS TO DESIGN A FIX FOR THIS DANGEROUS DEFECT. THE *TR

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HEADLIGHTS ARE A SAFETY ISSUE WITH THIS TRUCK. CAN NOT SEE THE SIDES OF THE ROAD AND THE ROADWAY IS VERY DIM. I HAVE CONTACTED GM MANY TIMES WITH NO ANSWER TO THE PROBLEM. ONE TIME THEY SAID, TURN ON THE FOG LIGHTS WHEN YOU ARE ABOUT TO TURN A CORNER. *TR

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