What 211 owners told NHTSA about the 2013 Kia Forte Koup

DRIVING INTERSTATE 55 MPH ENGINE MADE CLUNKING NOISE AND STOPPED HAD TO BE TOWED HOME CHECKED TIMING CHAIN WAS GOOD DROPPED OIL PAN AND ROD SHATTERED AND METAL SHAVING ALL TORE UP ENGINE NO LONGER ABLE TO BE REPAIRED LOOKING FOR A NEW ENGINE OWE $10,000 ON CAR HAVE TO CARRY FULL COVERAGE INSURANCE DOESN'T RUN

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MY CAR DASH BOARD SHOWS IARBAG SIGN AND IT STAYS . I CALLED TO KIA TALKED TO THEM THEY SAID WE WILL CALL YOU AND NOBODY CALLED ME . I KNOW THAT MY CAR GOT AFFECTED BY THE RECALL SC165 . PLEASE HELP ME WITH MY CAR BECAUSE I DON'T FEEL SAFE.

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TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2013 KIA FORTE. WHILE DRIVING AT AN UNKNOWN SPEED, THERE WAS A KNOCKING NOISE COMING FROM THE ENGINE COMPARTMENT. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO JEFF BELZER'S CHEVROLET, DODGE, KIA (21111 CEDAR AVE, LAKEVILLE, MN 55044, (952) 469-4444) WHERE IT WAS DIAGNOSED THAT THE ENGINE NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOTIFIED. THE APPROXIMATE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 83,000.

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WHILE DRIVING AT 65+ MPH ON THE FREEWAY, THIS 2013 KIA FORTE SX LOST POWER (ENGINE LIGHT, OIL LIGHT AND BATTERY LIGHT ILLUMINATED), STEERING STIFFENED AND VEHICLE RAPIDLY DECELERATED. IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT AND DANGEROUS TO GET THE VEHICLE DIRECTED OVER TO THE FREEWAY SHOULDER. THE VEHICLE HAS 61,619 MILES. IT WAS TOWED TO A KIA DEALERSHIP WHERE, BASED ON ENGINE NOISE, KIA HAS DIAGNOSED A ROD BEARING MALFUNCTION AT THE BOTTOM OF THE ENGINE. THIS ENGINE IS THE 2.4L THETA-II MPI (MULTI-PORT INJECTION) ENGINE (VS THE GDI, OR GASOLINE DIRECT INJECTION, ENGINE THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN RECALLED).

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I WAS DRIVING MY 2013 KIA FORTE KOUP UP AN ON-RAMP TO THE MAIN BRIDGE, GOING ABOUT 20 MILES PER HOUR WHEN THE ENGINE KILLED SUDDENLY. THE CAR HAS 56,000 MILES ON IT, AND I TAKE PHENOMENAL CARE OF IT (REGULAR OIL CHANGES AND MAINTENANCE). I HAD IT TOWED TO THE KIA DEALERSHIP ON FRIDAY, MAY 25, AND IT'S BEEN SITTING ON THE LOT COMPLETELY UNTOUCHED EVER SINCE. TODAY IS DAY 46 OF KIA GIVING ME THE RUNAROUND. NEVER AGAIN WILL I PURCHASE THEIR CARS.

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NHTSA RECALL SC147 2013 KIA FORTE KOUP HAS THE EXACT SAME THETA II ENGINE AS DESCRIBED IN THE RECALL FOR THE 2011-2014 OPTIMA, 2012-2014 SORENTO, AND 2011-2013 SPORTAGE MODELS. THE ENGINE WAS TRAVELLING AT HIGHWAY SPEEDS, LOST POWER, AND PROCEEDED TO SEIZE EXACTLY AS DESCRIBED IN THE RECALL ABOVE. WHEN THE VEHICLE WAS STOPPED, SMOKE PROCEEDED TO POUR OUT OF THE ENGINE HOOD AROUND THE HEAD GASKET. SMELL OF BURNING FILLED THE CABIN. TAKEN TO DEALERSHIP AND WAS TOLD THAT IT WAS HAPPENING ON OTHER MODELS BUT A RECALL DID NOT INCLUDE MY MODEL. ENTIRE EXPENSE WAS A MONTH LONG PROCESS STARTING JUNE 1. REPLACEMENT OF ENTIRE MOTOR REQUIRED, COSTING $6200.

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ON TUESDAY JUNE 26TH, 2018 I WAS ON MY WAY HOME FROM WORK ON THE INTERSTATE AND ALL OF A SUDDEN WITHOUT ANY WARNING, MY OIL PRESSURE LIGHT CAME ON AND THE ENGINE COMPLETELY SHUT OFF, I LOST ALL POWER, STEERING AND BRAKES BUT LUCKILY I WAS ABLE TO USE MY EMERGENCY BRAKE. CAR WOULDN'T START BACK AT ALL. I KEEP MY OIL CHANGED EVERY 4,000 MILES AND HAVEN'T EVER HAD AN ISSUE. THE ENGINE WASN'T KNOCKING OR MADE ANY LOUD NOISE WHEN IT HAPPENED. AND THE OIL WAS STILL ON THE FULL MARK. AND FROM WHAT I HAVE READ, THE SAME EXACT ENGINES HAVE BEEN RECALLED IN DIFFERENT KIA/HYUNDAI MODELS EXCEPT THE FORTE/FORTE KOUP 2.4L. SO NOW I AM LEFT WITHOUT MY CAR AND HAVING TROUBLE FINDING AN ENGINE I CAN AFFORD WHILE KIA/HYUNDAI IS REPLACING ENGINES THAT HAVE HAD THE SAME THING HAPPEN TO THEM BUT MINE THEY WONT REPLACE BECAUSE MY VIN DOESN'T CALL FOR THAT RECALL.

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I HAD AN ACCIDENT IN APRIL WHERE MY ENTIRE FRONT END WAS DAMAGED. THE AIR BAGS DID NOT DEPLOY AND THE SEAT BELT DID NOT CATCH ME CAUSING ME TO SMASH MY FACE INTO THE STEERING WHEEL.

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I, LIKE MANY OTHER KIA FORTE OWNERS, FEEL THE RECALL SHOULD INCLUDE THE FORTE. I HAVE EXPERIENCED THE SAME ISSUES AS THE OTHER OWNERS - ENGINE KNOCKING, OIL ISSUES, WHITE SMOKE EXITING THE EXHAUST, LOSS OF SPEED WHILE DRIVING, CAR DYING AFTER ACCELERATION AND FINISHING IN A PUFF OF SMOKE. WHEN IT FIRST BEGAN IN JUNE 2016 I TOOK THE CAR IN TO THE DEALERSHIP WHERE IT WAS PURCHASED AND THEY SAID THEY WOULD NOT REPAIR IT BECAUSE IT WASN'T THEIR FAULT. YET, I SEE THAT THE SAME PROBLEMS ARE LITERALLY BEING REPAIRED ON OTHER MODELS WITH THE SAME ENGINE AND ISSUES. THE THETA II 2.4L ENGINE CLEARLY IS DEFECTIVE IN ALL OF THE VEHICLES. I FAIL TO UNDERSTAND WHY THE FORTE WAS NOT INCLUDED ON THIS LIST. TO MAKE MATTERS WORSE, THE DEALERSHIP REALLY RAKED US OVER THE COALS ON THE PURCHASE AND FIVE YEARS LATER WE STILL OWE NEARLY $10K ON THE VEHICLE. CLEARLY OTHER DEALERSHIPS ARE AWARE OF THE DEFECT BECAUSE I CANNOT GET ANYONE TO TAKE IT AS A TRADE IN - TURNED DOWN BY OVER TEN DEALERSHIPS. PLEASE ADVISE ME ON HOW WE CAN RECTIFY THIS PROBLEM. MY HUSBAND IS A DISABLED VETERAN AND WE RELY ON THIS VEHICLE TO GET TO AND FROM APPOINTMENTS, AS IT IS OUR ONLY MEANS OF TRANSPORTATION.

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WE BOUGHT THIS 2013 KIA FORTE KOUP IN OCTOBER 2014. IT HAD 29,000 MILES ON IT. WE HAD IT SERVICED REGULARLY AND ON SCHEDULE. MY DAUGHTER WAS DRIVING HOME FROM COLLEGE ON DECEMBER 19, 2017 AND HER CAR STARTED SMOKING, SHAKING AND LOST ALL POWER WHILE DRIVING 70 MPH. THE CAR HAD 73,405 MILES ON IT. AFTER HAVING THE VEHICLE TOWED AT MY EXPENSE BACK TO OUR DEALERSHIP IN LUFKIN, TX, I RESEARCHED WHAT SHE DESCRIBED AND IT WAS IDENTICAL TO THE ENGINE FAILURES EXPERIENCED BY THE KIA OPTIMAS AND SORENTOS THAT WERE RECALLED. AFTER CONSULTATION WITH THE SERVICE DEPARTMENT IT WAS DECIDED THE BEST COURSE OF ACTION WOULD BE TO REPLACE THE BLOCK. ACCORDING TO KIA IT WOULD TAKE A COUPLE OF WEEKS TO GET THE BLOCK IN. WE CHOSE TO SEND HER BACK TO SCHOOL IN OUR PERSONAL FAMILY VEHICLE. 2 WEEKS TURNED INTO 5 MONTHS. THE KIA SERVICE MANAGER UPON BEGINNING REPAIR IN MAY 2018, SAID THE ENGINE EXPERIENCED A MANUFACTURE'S DEFECT FULL CATASTROPHIC FAILURE SIMILAR TO THE OPTIMAS AND SORENTOS EVEN THOUGH THE FORTE WAS NOT RECALLED. BECAUSE OF THE SEVERITY OF THE FAILURE MULTIPLE ENGINE COMPONENTS HAD TO BE REPLACED BESIDES THE BLOCK. TOTAL INVOICE: LABOR $2464 PARTS $7435.34 TAX $613.42. TOTAL COST $9762.76 NADA VALUE OF CAR $9600. KIA CONSUMER SERVICE RESPONSE: INITIAL OFFER $1500, FINAL OFFER $2461.70 (PRICE OF THE REMAN ENGINE). NOT TO MENTION LOSS OF USE FOR 5 MONTHS. KIA SERVICE MANAGER SAID THE ENGINE DID NOT SHOW ANY SIGN OF USER NEGLECT AND THAT THE FAILURE OF THE ENGINE WAS 100% MANUFACTURE DEFECT.

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THE CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT FOR THETA II ENGINES IN KIA CARS NEEDS TO BE EXPANDED TO INCLUDE ALL THE MODELS WITH THAT ENGINE. I HAVE A 2013 FORTE SX WITH ONE OF THOSE DEFECTIVE THETA II 2.4L ENGINES. IT APPEARS THAT ONLY THE OPTIMA, SORENTO AND SPORTAGE MODELS MADE THE LIST. NOT SURE IF IT IS AN OVERSIGHT OR THAT THEY MADE SO FEW FORTES WITH THAT ENGINE. HOWEVER IT IS, THE POINT IS THAT THE ENGINE IS BAD NO MATTER WHAT VEHICLE THEY DEEMED TO PLACE IT IN. PLEASE EXPAND THE RECALL TO MAKE THE ENGINE THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE RECALL. ALL THESE CARS HAVE THE THETA II PER WIKIPEDIA: THETA/THETA-II ENGINE - 2.4L (2359CC) (G4KC, G4KE, G4KG, G4KJ,) HYUNDAI SONATA (2006'2010) HYUNDAI SONATA GDI (2011-) HYUNDAI SONATA (2011-) (MIDDLE EAST) HYUNDAI TUCSON (2010-) HYUNDAI SANTA FE (2010-) HYUNDAI STAREX (2007-) KIA OPTIMA (2006'2010) KIA OPTIMA GDI (2011-) KIA RONDO (2007-) KIA CADENZA GDI (2011-) KIA SPORTAGE (2011-) KIA SORENTO (2011-) KIA FORTE (2010-2013) *TR

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I WAS ENTERING THE FREEWAY, ACCELERATED TO MATCH TRAFFIC SPEED, I HEARD THE ENGINE'S RPMS INCREASE BUT ALMOST IMMEDIATELY AFTERWARDS THE CAR SHUT DOWN. I WAS IN THE MIDDLE LANE OF A VERY BUSY INTERCHANGE AND GOING ABOUT 60MPH WHEN THE CAR QUIT. I KEPT TRYING TO RESTART THE CAR BY PUTTING IT IN NEUTRAL AND AT THE SAME TIME STEER IT TOWARDS THE SHOULDER. THERE WERE NO WARNING LIGHTS. WHEN I HEARD THE ENGINE NOISE I LOOKED AT THE DASH, ALL WAS NORMAL, THE D FOR DRIVE WAS VISIBLE. IT HAPPENED VERY QUICKLY. ONCE STOPPED AND OUT OF TRAFFIC, I TRIED TO RESTART THE CAR, IT RAN FOR JUST SECONDS THEN NOTHING. THIS CAR HAD JUST BEEN SERVICED AT THE KIA DEALER. IT ONLY HAS 51K MILES ON IT. I HAD TO HAVE IT TOWED TO THE DEALER. THEY ARE TELLING ME THE ENGINE IS FAULTY BUT THEY DON'T MAKE IT ANYMORE AND THEY HAVE NO RESOLUTION FOR ME. THE CAR IS ONLY 4 MONTHS PAST THE 5 YEAR MARK AND IT IS UNDER 60000 MILES. IT HAS BEEN MAINTAINED PERFECTLY, IT STILL LOOKS NEW. THE ORIGINAL OWNER DID ALL THE SERVICE AS WELL. KIA KNOWS THEY HAVE FAULTY ENGINES, YET THEY DO NOTHING TO WARN THE OWNERS OR REMEDY THE PROBLEM. THE SAY THEIR CARS ARE GOOD FOR 10YRS OR 100K MILES, THEN THEY SHOULD MAKE IT SO. THIS CAR IS A TOP OF THE LINE 2013 FORTE SX (WITH ALL THE BELLS AND WHISTLES) . I BELIEVE IT IS ALSO AFFECTED BY THE LATEST AIRBAG RECALL AS WELL.

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THE LOW TIRE PRESSURE IS ALWAYS ON EVEN WHEN I CHECK THE TIRES PRESSURE AND IT RIGHT..THE BRAKES ARE ALWAYS SQUICKING

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TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2013 KIA FORTE. THE CONTACT HEARD A KNOCKING SOUND COMING FROM THE ENGINE COMPARTMENT. THE MOTOR FAILED SEVERAL TIMES, WHICH CAUSED THE VEHICLE TO COME TO A COMPLETE STOP. THE VEHICLE WAS TOWED SEVERAL TIMES TO THE CONTACT'S RESIDENCE DUE TO THE FAILURE. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO ROUTE 6 AUTO MALL KIA (1049 GRAND ARMY OF THE REPUBLIC HWY, SWANSEA, MA 02777, (508) 646-9700) WHERE IT WAS DIAGNOSED THAT THE MOTOR NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. THE VEHICLE WAS THEN TAKEN TO AN INDEPENDENT MECHANIC AND IT WAS ALSO DIAGNOSED THAT THE MOTOR NEEDED TO BE REPLACED; HOWEVER, THERE WAS A DELAY IN RECEIVING THE PART FROM THE MANUFACTURER. ONCE THE PART WAS RECEIVED, THE INDEPENDENT MECHANIC WOULD REPAIR THE VEHICLE. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS NOT AVAILABLE.

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THE VEHICLE MAKES A REALLY LOUD TICKING OR TAPPING NOISE WHILE PARKED ON IDLE THAT GETS SIGNIFICANTLY LOUDER WHEN ACCELERATING. THERE ARE MANY VIDEOS ON YOUTUBE THAT DOCUMENT THIS NOISE. THE NOISE IS SO LOUD SOMETIMES IT SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING IN THE MOTOR WILL COME THRU THE MOTOR.

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ON 4/24/18 DRIVING ON RESIDENTIAL STREET DOING APPROX 35MPH WHEN CAR BEGAN TO SLOW. ATTEMPTED TO ACCELERATE TO NO AVAIL. TRIED TO TURN AT NEXT CORNER TO ENTER GAS STATION. STRUGGLED TO MAKE TURN AS STEERING WAS VERY DIFFICULT. CAR CUT OFF AND WOULD NOT CRANK EVEN AFTER A JUMP START. CAR TOWED TO INDEPENDENT REPAIR SHOP. DIAGNOSIS "ENGINE LOCKED UP". NO MONEY FOR EXPENSIVE REPAIR.

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TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2013 KIA FORTE. WHILE DRIVING APPROXIMATELY 45 MPH, THE VEHICLE STALLED. THERE WERE NO WARNING INDICATORS ILLUMINATED. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE VEHICLE LOST STEERING AND BRAKING ABILITY. THE CONTACT COASTED THE VEHICLE INTO AN EMPTY PARKING LOT AND HAD IT TOWED TO AN INDEPENDENT MECHANIC WHERE IT WAS DIAGNOSED THAT THE ENGINE SEIZED. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE DEALER AND MANUFACTURER WERE NOT NOTIFIED. THE APPROXIMATE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 68,000.

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I WAS DRIVING DOWN THE HIGHWAY AND HEARD A FIZING NOISE AND LOST POWER PULLED OVER AND OIL WAS POURING OUT OF THE BOTTOM OF THE BLOCK, IT HAD THROWN A ROD, THE OIL HAD JUST BEEN CHANGE AND SET TO PROPER LEVEL BEFOR THE 2 HOUR TRIP. THERE WAS NO NOCKING OR AND INDICATION OF ANY KIND.

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THIS IS THE 2ND ENGINE REPLACEMENT I HAVE HAD TO DO IN A 2013 CAR. DRIVING 60MPH WITHOUT WARNING CAR STALLED AND I WAS FORCED TO COAX TO THE SIDE OF RURAL COUNTRY ROAD, IN THE MIDDLE OF EXTREME COLD WEATHER THE 2ND TIME. THE 1ST TIME I WAS DRIVING THE CAR ABFTER JUST GETTING OIL CHANGED AND CAR MADE A LOUD NOISE AND CAR STALLED WHILE DRIVING ON INTERSTATE AT 70MPH. CAR WAS TOWED AND ENGINE WAS BLOWN EACH TIME. I HAVE CONTACTED KIA ON BOTH OCCASIONS AND ON BOTH OCCASIONS CAR WAS SENT TO DEALERSHIP AND COULD NOT FIGURE OUT WHY ENGINE BLEW. OIL LEVELS WHERE FOUND GOOD. THIS IS RIDICULOUS THAT I HAVE HAD TWO REPLACE 2 ENGINES IN A 2013 KIA WHICH IS FINANCED AND KIA REFUSES TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. I HAVE RECEIPTS AS WELL AS REPORTS DONE ON CAR EACH TIME THIS OCCURRED. HOWEVER THEY ARE IN GLOVEBOX OF CAR AT GARAGE GETTING A NEW ENGINE!

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DURING MONTH OF DECEMBER 2017 DISCOVERED ALL BRAKE LIGHTS (TOTAL OF 3 BULBS) BURNED OUT. THE CENTER TOP BRAKE LIGHT ASSEMBLY DISCOVERED MELTED (SELF REPLACED WITH NEW ONES). THREE WEEKS AGO, RIGHT BRAKE LIGHT ASSEMBLY AND BULB BOTH BURNED OUT AND MELTED. I REPLACED THE LIGHT BULB AND USED ELECTRICIAN TAPE TO HOLD SOCKET AND BULB IN PLACE.

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TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2013 KIA FORTE KOUP. WHILE DRIVING 73 MPH, THE ENGINE STALLED WITHOUT WARNING. THE CONTACT PULLED OVER TO THE SIDE OF THE ROAD AND WAITED FOR THE VEHICLE TO COOL DOWN. THE CONTACT ATTEMPTED TO RESTART THE VEHICLE, BUT WAS UNSUCCESSFUL. THE VEHICLE WAS TOWED TO AN INDEPENDENT MECHANIC WHERE IT WAS DIAGNOSED THAT THE ENGINE NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT TAKEN TO THE DEALER. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT CONTACTED. THE APPROXIMATE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 76,039.

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TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2013 KIA FORTE. WHILE DRIVING 70 MPH, THE MOTOR FAILED. THERE WERE NO WARNING INDICATORS ILLUMINATED. THE VEHICLE WAS TOWED TO DELAND KIA (2322 S WOODLAND BLVD, DELAND, FL 32720, (386) 734-7800) WHERE IT WAS DIAGNOSED THAT THE CRANK SHAFT FAILED AND DESTROYED THE ENGINE. THE VEHICLE WAS REPAIRED. THE MANUFACTURER STATED THAT THEY WOULD NOT REPAIR THE VEHICLE BECAUSE THERE WAS NO OPEN RECALL AND THE VEHICLE WAS NOT UNDER WARRANTY. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 66,000.

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ON 10/13/17, MY SON WAS DRIVING HOME ON THE FL TURNPIKE FROM COLLEGE WHEN HIS ENGINE SEIZED. LUCKY HE WAS NOT SERIOUSLY INJURED OR KILLED. HAD CAR TOWED TO THE NEAREST KIA ORLANDO W DEALER, FOUND OUT THE ENGINE ROD WAS BLOWN THROUGH TOP AND BOTTOM OF BLOCK. ENGINE WAS REPLACED WITH A SHORT BLOCK AND REUSED PARTS. DURING TEST DRIVE CAR STALLED DUE TO A TIMING CHAIN FAILING. REPLACED TIMING CHAIN, THEN THE IGNITION COIL WENT AND HAD TO BE REPLACED. NEXT, THE CAR BEGAN TO MISFIRE AND THEY REPLACE ALL 4 FUEL INJECTORS. THEN TOLD CYLINDER 2 FAILED THE COMPRESSION TEST WHICH MEANS THE NEW MOTOR FAILED. KIA SENT NEW HEADS TO A MACHINE SHOP AFTER SEVERAL WEEKS WE WERE TOLD THEY WERE BAD AND HAD TO ORDER NEW ONES. NOW WAITING ON NEW HEADS TO ARRIVE BE SENT BACK TO THE MACHINE SHOP THE REPLACED ON EXISTING BLOCK. STILL WITH OUT A CAR NEARLY 2 MONTHS LATER. I SEE KIA HAD SEVERAL RECALLS BUT NOT ON THE FORTE... THE KIA FORTE CONTAINS THETA II 2.4-LITER ENGINE. CURRENTLY, THE SAME ENGINE IN THE HYUNDAI SONOTA WHICH WAS MANUFACTURED BY THE SAME COMPANY WAS RECALLED IN THE 2013 - 2014 CARS. VERY FRUSTRATED WITH KIA'S PROCESS THE FACT THAT WHEN WE ASK FOR DOCUMENTATION THEY WILL NOT PROVIDE. SENT US A PRELIMINARY INVOICE WITH A MAJORITY OF THE INFORMATION MISSING. WE DO HAVE DOCUMENTATION OF PROOF. OUR SON HAS BEEN WITHOUT A CAR AT COLLEGE FOR 2 MONTHS.

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REAR BRAKE LIGHT BULBS KEEP BURNING OUT. FOUND A RECALL FOR THE SWITCH. I BROUGHT IT IN TO LOCAL REPAIR SHOP AND THEY SAY IT'S THE SWITCH. CALLED KIA CUSTOMER REP AND THEY SAID THERE IS A RECALL BUT IT DOES NOT APPLY TO MY KIA FORTE. NOT GOOD! I HAVE A KIA AND A HYUNDAI. HAVING ISSUES WITH THE HYUNDAI AS WELL. THESE ARE BOTH 2013 MODELS AND I EXPECTED MORE. I WILL NOT BE BUYING THESE CARS AGAIN SINCE THEY HAVE ONGOING ISSUES AND THE COMPANY DOES NOT STAND BEHIND THEIR PRODUCT FOR ITEMS THAT SHOULD NOT WEAR OUT IN 4 YEARS. VERY POOR QUALITY.

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I KEEP HAVING ISSUES WITH MY BREAK LIGHT HAVING TO BE REPLACED ALL THE TIME. NOW IT'S WHERE THEY DO NOT WORK AT ALL NOR DOES THE CAR GO INTO GEAR! I HAVE TO USE SOMETHING TO PUSH THE SHIFT LOCK DOWN SO THAT I CAN SHIFT GEARS. THIS SEEMS TO BE AN UNIVERSAL ISSUE AROUND THE BOARD ON SEVERAL DIFFERENT FORUMS. NOW THIS ISSUE HAS CAUSE SOME TYPE OF ELECTRICAL ISSUE WITHIN MY VEHICLE. I TOOK IT TO KIA AND AT SOME POINT I'M SURE THIS IS ISN'T THE FIRST THEY HAVE HEARD OF THIS BECAUSE THEY KEEP SAYING WELL YOUR VEHICLE DOESN'T HAVE ANY RECALLS. OKAY I UNDERSTAND BUT AT THE SAME TIME THE EXACT SAME THATS HAPPENING WITH MY VEHICLE IS ALMOST IDENTICAL TO PREVIOUS YEAR MAKE AND MODEL BREAKLIGHT ISSUES. IT'S FAR TOO MANY COMPLAINTS ABOUT THIS ISSUE AND IF YOUR VEHICLE ISN'T UNDER WARRANTY ANYMORE, KIA REFUSES TO ACKNOWLEDGE IT OR BE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT! IF IT WALKS LIKE A DUCK....QUACKS LIKE A DUCK....IT'S A DUCK...PLAIN AND SIMPLE! I FEEL THIS IS NEGLECT AND IT'S PUTTING CONSUMERS LIVES AT RISK.

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